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NEAL WALTZ DIE REVIEW

The past couple years, I have been trying to squeeze all the accuracy out of a Savage Mark II BTVLSS .22 caliber long rifle that I could which has been a tough one since that particular rifle is probably the worst new gun right out of the box that I have owned as far as initial accuracy.

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GETTING STARTED

However, this rifle finally met my goal of being able to shoot squirrels in the head at 50 yards, one shot one kill, but some of the factory hollow point ammunition did not group well in this gun and decided to modify some existing solid nose ammunition that shot real well like the Wolf Match Target 40 grain.  A few squirrels managed to survive a head shot with the round nose bullets and knew I needed a hollow point round to get the job done (serious trauma) as quick and humane as possible.  Since I am shooting suppressed, subsonic ammunition is definitely a requirement and finding excellent grouping subsonic ammunition for this Savage Mark II has been a problem and so far, the Eley Subsonic 40 grain hollow point rated at 1040 feet per second leads the pack for accuracy which should not be a surprise.  However, recently I have been getting misfires even with good heavy firing pin strikes on the bullet case.

I looked at several companies offering resizing dies such as the Paco Kelly Acu'rzr, the D Rock bullet modification system and the Neal Waltz Die of which the Neal Waltz Die is what I decided to purchase.  The Paco system required you to give the tool a whack with a hammer and/or mallet and the D Rock system required a separate type of small arbor press and seemed to be a little complicated, whereas the Neal Waltz Die required only a reloading press and was the simplest to use in my humble opinion and had two reforming tools to make the Eley EPS point and a good sized hollow point. 

All three of the above can be found on a Goggle search with YouTube videos but will only link to the Neal Waltz Die.

I called Neal Waltz on the telephone and the current price for the Die is 130 bucks plus 15 for shipping and handling for a total of $ 145.00 dollars.  I got him a money order in the mail on 11-30-15 and received the die on 12-09-15 and got a chance to use it this afternoon.  Below pix of the die set with a single page instruction sheet and a small picture of the die, target fired and pix of the reshaped bullets:

I knocked the dust off my ole antiquated RCBS A4 Big Max reloading press and set it up on my work table in my woodworking shop in the basement.  I installed the die set and adjusted the die about .003 inches from the ram when at full stroke and used an Allen wrench to tighten the locking set screw in the collar.

I decided to form Eley EPS points on the Wolf Match Target 40 grain long rifle solid nose bullets and pix below of the die set before assembled into the reloading press:

This is a very ingénues die set since there is space in the upper portion of the seating die to house the forming tool not currently being used.  There is excellent craftsmanship on this tool and the parts that do the forming and inner wall of the die has a smooth finish.  Neal Waltz is a retired tool and die maker and you will certainly be impressed with the quality of his work.

Once the die is inserted in your loading press, a round is placed in the .22 caliber LR shell holder and the ram is moved to its maximum upward travel. 

The seating forming/die rod; e.g., top portion of the die is screwed down until it makes contact with the nose of the bullet inside the die.  The knurled collar is adjusted against the die and tightened.

You then, lower the press ram and while holding the stem of the upper portion of the die, you screw the knurled collar of the upper portion of the die collar counter clockwise while holding the stem and turn the stem of the upper portion of the die at least half a turn clockwise which lowers the upper portion of the die and then tighten the knurled locking collar against the die and move the bullet up into the die.  Lower the ram and check the diameter of the flat portion on the EPS type nose with a micrometer and/or accurate dial caliper.  It should be between .125 and .135 inches and if not, readjust the upper portion of the die again in small increments until you are within the above criteria.  Also, the bullet driving band diameter of your bullet will now be resized to around .225 inches.  The Wolf Match Target bullet driving band was .224 before resizing and the bullet driving band is compressed (formed) against the wall of the lower die which is .225 inches in diameter on this die.  Pix below of the resized bullet: 

If you desire to form hollow point bullets, the configuration of the die set is below:

The nose forming tool will allow you to make a very large hollow point bullet up to .180 inches deep and also resize the bullet driving band to a uniform .225 inches in diameter.  I checked some Winchester subsonic 40 grain hollow point bullets and their bullet driving band diameter was between .219 and .220 inches which is much smaller in diameter than other brands of ammunition that I have tested so far.  Below is a pix of the formed aka resized bullets:

The two bullets on the left are Wolf Match Target that is not modified, EPS center and hollow point on the far right from the Neal Waltz Die.

This die set is available direct from Neal Waltz, 4105 Hyatt Avenue N.W., Massillon OH 44646-1435 Telephone:  330-837-4818.  Current prices is $ 145.00 which includes shipping and handling.

I have read and heard all kind of positive and negative comments about resizing .22 caliber LR bullets, seating the bullet lower into the case, bullet discharging, etc., of which anyone can post their own opinion.  Most posting such negative opinions are experts at giving out information without having tried what they are preaching to others.  The forming dies work because of a couple principles; 1)  For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, 2)  Things follow the path of least resistance.  Since you are forming the soft lead bullet nose by compression, the metal is displaced against the side walls of the lower die set and with the bullet well crimped into the case, the lead material is easier to form against the walls of the lower die rather than force the lead bullet deeper into the case.  I borrowed Newton's Third Law and Ohms Law for the analogy.

My goal is to produce hollow point bullets from solid nose ammunition that groups well in my rifle.  If Wolf Match Target was available with a hollow point bullet, I probably would not be using any kind of .22 caliber rimfire resizing die.  Money is not the primary issue here since I could just have easily purchased a brick or more of Eley Subsonic 40 grain hollow point bullets less than the cost of the die that groups well enough to harvest a squirrel at 50 yards in my hunk of junk Savage Mark II BTVLSS gun and that would be enough ammunition to harvest a truck load of squirrels.  The tinkering and fun of doing different things and trying new techniques is what keeps many of us active and if a few bucks are spent, wasted and/or saved along the way, so be it!   Life without personal enjoyment would be mighty dull in my humble opinion, especially looking at everything in terms of dollars and cents.

Tomorrow, I will set up my chronograph and do some ammo testing at 52 yards.  I use a 52 yard backstop since I had to put it there to not interfere with where I broadcast corn for the deer for a couple decades or more and certainly do enjoy the taste of venison well prepared.

Web published by Bill aka Mickey Porter on 12-09-15.

In summation,  I am very pleased with the performance of the Neal Waltz die and the Wolf Match Target ammunition resized to hollow points are approaching the accuracy of the Eley Subsonic 40 grain factory hollow point rounds.  I plan to place the Bushnell 6 x 18 x 50MM hunting scope back on the rifle after I finish additional testing.  The Weaver T36 scope definitely helps target shooting and you can clearly see the small center red dot in the white bullseye in the above targets at 52 yards.

My shooting buddy Robert Webster of Hamlet, NC is going to do some testing of the resized bullets from the Neal Waltz die since his Savage BTV shoots far better than mine and he is a much better shot than myself too which should provide more reliable results.

I let Robert Webster use my reloading press and the Neal Waltz die to create some hollow points from the various brands of round nose ammo that he has.  He stated it took seven (7) minutes to resized 50 rounds and that is not too bad of a time.  Later, Robert tried a different technique and was able to resize 50 rounds in 5 minutes.

The Advanced Armament Corporation Pilot 2 .22 cal. LR silencer aka suppressor was way overdue for a good cleaning and it took around one half hour plus to get it back to factory looking standards again.  I soaked the baffles in Hoppe's No. 9 Gun Bore Cleaner for about half an hour and removed the lead build up with a nylon brush, small flat screwdriver tip, paper towels and generic Q-Tips.  I then gave the baffles a light coat of white lithium grease prior to installing the baffles and it definitely helps reduce the cleaning time since the powder particles adhere to the lithium grease and most of the fine lead particle mist is expelled. 

Web published update by Bill aka Mickey Porter on 12-12-15.

HOLLOW POINT PERFORMANCE

Below are thumbnail pixs of what the entry and exit hole looks like on a large grey squirrel using a CZ 452 American left-hand and Wolf Match Target resized to a hollow point.  The squirrel was at about 50 yards and the pictures speak for themselves. 

The Neal Waltz die will certainly do what it is intended to do with excellent results from a modified Wolf Match Target bullet to hollow point.

Web published update by Bill aka Mickey Porter on 01-29-16.

NORMA USA TAC-22 HOLLOW POINTED BULLETS

The past couple weeks, finally got around to running some Norma USA Tac-22 bullets through the Neal Waltz die and my No. 1 Brother-in-Law, Douglas Pettigrew test fired a few of them this afternoon at 52 yards.  Below is a pix of the target he fired using my left-hand CZ 452 American rifle and shot a 5-shot group better group than I did with my own gun....grin if you must:

The NORMA USA TAC-22 rimfire ammo before resizing is: OAL .969 inches and the bullet driving band diameter is .223 inches in diameter.  After resizing in the Neal Waltz Die:  OAL .946 inches with .225 driving band diameter:

I fired some rounds to get the point of aim established shooting Eley Subsonic Hollow Point bullets which are about 50 feet per second slower than the Norma USA Tac-22 at around 1100 feet per second.  Any of the rounds fired so far through the CZ 452 American left-hand is deadly medicine for Mr. Squirrel at 52 yards.  The Norma prints high and to the right of the Eley Subsonic HP bullets which will still harvest a squirrel.  A simple POA (Point of Aim) scope adjustment is all that is needed.

Web published update by Bill aka Mickey Porter on 04-30-16. 

WOLF AMMO BULLET EXPANSION PIXS

I harvested a grey squirrel this morning at 50 yards that was directly facing me with a Wolf Match Target 40 grain Neal Waltz hollow pointed bullet fired from my CZ American left-hand rifle and below are a couple pixs of the mushroomed bullet recovered.  The bullet entered to the right of his mouth and went right below the spine into the body cavity traveling nearly the entire length of the squirrel lodging underneath the skin ahead of the hind quarter on the left side....., whereas the bullet cleaned his clock for sure.  As they say, "A picture is worth a thousand words."

I didn't weigh the mushroomed 40 grain bullet, but it appears to have stayed intact.  Can you say awesome?

The maximum bullet diameter expansion was .442 inches and the minimum was .325 inches.  The bullet weight was 39.9 grains, whereas the scale has a plus or minus .2 grain accuracy.

Web published update by Bill aka Mickey Porter on 11-02-16 and 11-12-16.

CROW AT 50 YARDS

Perfect broadside shot at 50 yards breaking both wings...dead before it hit the ground!

Web published update by Bill aka Mickey Porter 11-05-16.

A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS

Above squirrel taken at 50 yards and Yes, the eye was the aiming point!

Web published update by Bill aka Mickey Porter on 11-08-16.

SQUIRRELS VISITING DEER FEEDING AREA 11-09-16

Below a few pixs of a couple unlucky squirrels that ventured into my deer feeding area while I had the little rimfire rifle close by just for the squirrels:

Very little meat wasted with these type of heat shots!

Both squirrels taken at 50 yards.  The CZ USA 452 American is definitely some serious medicine for harvesting those bushy tails!  The Wolf Match Target 40 grain bullets modified to a hollow point using the Neal Waltz die is awesome.

This rifle is currently shooting one hole 5-shot clusters at 52 yards averaging a little over 1/2 inch O.D. to O.D. on a good windless day and good "luck of the draw" ammunition.

See the CZ 452 American left-hand page for details.

MASSIVE TRAUMA AND TISSUE DAMAGE

Below pixs taken of a squirrel harvested with a body shot.....I didn't have a good place to rest and decided not to try for a head shot which is what I prefer.  The squirrel was high in a tree and about 35 to 40 yards distance away....just a guesstimate.

Upon skinning the squirrel, the left shoulder detached from the body with the hide.....you can see there is some serious trauma and tissue damage by the Neil Waltz hollow pointed Wolf Match Target 40 grain bullet.

Close-up of exit tissue damage.

The ole busy tail dropped like a rock when the bullet made a loud thud sound hitting him.

Web published update by Bill aka Mickey Porter on 11-10-16.

UPDATE

NOTE:  Many have emailed about the Neal Waltz die set wanting to purchase my die set of which I gave all my reloading equipment and supplies to our son.  Neal Waltz can be difficult to reach on the telephone.  He is not chained to an Obamaphone like so many current folks are today!

LEAVING ON A SPIRITUAL NOTE

If you do not know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, please take this moment to accept him by Faith into your Life, whereby Salvation will be attained.   

Ephesians 2:8 - 2:9 8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Hebrews 11:1 “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”

Romans 10:17 “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

Open this link about faith in the King James Bible.

Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

Open this link of Bible Verses About Salvation, King James Version Bible (KJV).

Hebrews 4:12 “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”

Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

Micah 6:8 “He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?”

Philippians 4:13 "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."

IN GOD WE TRUST - GOD BLESS AMERICA - "FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE"   JOHN 3:16 KJV 

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